I know facebook/internet social rights issues are fucking pointless to get into, but I follow a MRA's group on facebook, just for a Devil's Advocate type knowledge, and I don't feel scared of testing my beliefs against the bullship things they argue. It annoys me, because it makes me angry at society, but I think it makes my own beliefs stronger. However, I'm a shitty debater and although I can be good with words, I am not good under pressure and I'm not cut out for that kind of conflict so I don't often engage.

Tonight though, I couldn't resist. Slut shaming is the feminist topic I'm most comfortable arguing, and one I believe in wholeheartedly. Along with abortion/ pro-choice debates, I could argue that confidently all day long.

So it was some bullshit about slutwalks and I was like, no you're wrong, 'reasons, reasons, reasons' and the discussion is civil because I'm not letting it be any other way, I'm not letting them bring me down on stupid things like spelling and I'm not mentioning those kinds of things to them, because I want the debate to not be personal, I want it to be about the issue.

I have a lot of issues with MRA's but I don't think all of them are the scum of the earth.

I like having debates. It's like when I'm writing conversation, because it's all coming from my own head, I can only consider perspectives that my brain understands, that I've seen and that make sense to me. So I fail, especially when I'm writing conversations with people who I find enigmatic (ie you-know-who). This is the same, I can write a good argument, but they're going to come back with rebuttal I didn't consider. If I had of, I'd have covered it.

So it's good, even if I run the risk of raging and I know it's not going to really change anybodies minds.